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Hi Rob, On 5/8/26 17:13, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote: > For some reason, I suspect because many of us are engineers, the > IETF often seems to avoid the simplest solution to a given problem. > > We publish lots of RFCs, a very tiny fraction of them use the no > derivatives clause. The pain & hassle of allowing for "no > derivatives" vastly outweighs any benefits of allowing it. > > At John pointed out, there are loads of alternative ways to publish > stuff on the Internet. Let's just get rid of this (ideally from all > streams, but at least the IETF stream) and move on with a very > slightly simpler IETF/RFC process than we have today. > I think your suggestion is reasonable for the future. Could we set the standard that people making contributions are automatically placed into the public domain? It would resolve the data usage equity discussion relating to AI and other consumers of the data. Kind regards, Jacob P.S. This email is hereby placed into the public domain.
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