Re: RFC 5378 "contributions"
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 15 January 2009 00:39 UTC
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:38:57 +1300
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: RFC 5378 "contributions"
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On 2009-01-15 13:32, Randy Presuhn wrote: > Hi - > > I originally asked this question on the WG chairs' list, and > was asked to ask again here... > > The discussion about RFC 5378 (what little I've been able to > understand of it, anyway) has focussed on I-Ds and RFCs. > However, the definition of "contribution" in that document > includes, among other things, mailing list discussions. > > Does this mean that we need to get contributor permission > before using, for example, material from a pre-5378 RFC in > a mailing list discussion, or before including text from a > pre-5378 email posting in an internet draft? > > This seems really silly, but that's what the discussion is > starting to sound like to me. IANAL, but it seems to me that we should proceed on the assumption that this would fall under fair use provisions. Anything else would seem unreasonable to me. It also seems to me that a WG Last Call on a draft containing the new boilerplate would act as fair warning to all participants, and if they don't object, they've effectively consented. But again, IANAL. IJWTGMWD (I just want to get my work done). Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- RFC 5378 "contributions" Randy Presuhn
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Marshall Eubanks
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Paul Hoffman
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Contreras, Jorge
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Andrew Sullivan
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Randy Presuhn
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Tom.Petch
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Harald Alvestrand
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Martin Duerst
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" John C Klensin
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" TSG
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Marshall Eubanks
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Andrew Sullivan
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Theodore Tso
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Theodore Tso
- RE: RFC 5378 "contributions" Contreras, Jorge
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" John Levine
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Marshall Eubanks
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" TSG
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" TSG
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Theodore Tso
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Doug Ewell
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Simon Josefsson
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Tom.Petch
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Marshall Eubanks
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Marshall Eubanks
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Theodore Tso
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" SM
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Simon Josefsson
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Tom.Petch
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" John C Klensin
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Theodore Tso
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Simon Josefsson
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Theodore Tso
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Simon Josefsson
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" TSG
- Re: RFC 5378 "contributions" Tom.Petch