Re: DMARC and

S Moonesamy <> Mon, 15 August 2016 16:48 UTC

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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:41:00 -0700
To: Alexey Melnikov <>
From: S Moonesamy <>
Subject: Re: DMARC and
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Hi Alexey,

The thread about "DMARC and" goes back to July 2014.  I took 
a quick look at the draft about Interoperability Issues Between DMARC 
and Indirect Email Flows.  It is odd that the non-IETF RFC is an 
Informational reference.  Anyway, that's not a matter I am interested in.

The issue with the "DMARC and" discussion is that nobody is 
doing anything about messages from senders with DMARC policies which 
might be encounter delivery failures when the messages are sent to mailing lists.  Some of the possible changes to address the 
issue can have an impact on a more than a decade-old IETF practice.

Could you please look into this matter?

S. Moonesamy