Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-class attacks
jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Fri, 20 September 2013 15:25 UTC
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> From: Martin Sustrik <sustrik@250bpm.com>
> Isn't it the other way round? That exactly because IETF process is open
> it's relatively easy for anyone to secretly introduce a backdoor into a
> protocol?
> ...
> With IETF standard there can very well be several unknown backdoors
> introduced by different parties, so it's never safe.
Iff enough people are _carefully_ reviewing specs, that ought to find all the
backdoors. An open process does have potential issues, but it's also the one
with the best chance of producing a 'good' product.
> That being said, wouldn't it make more sense to admit that IETF is not
> a good platform for devising, say, crypto protocols and act accordingly
> (use 3rd party protocols ...)?
You mean, trust another entity, which might have been suborned? How are they
less likely to have produced something without backdoors than the IETF?
Noel
- Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-class at… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Scott Brim
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Scott Brim
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Martin Sustrik
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Ted Lemon
- RE: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Moriarty, Kathleen
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… John C Klensin
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Steve Crocker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… todd
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… SM
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Dave Crocker
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Scott Brim
- Education and Information Sharing ... was Re: Tra… Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: Education and Information Sharing ... was Re:… Moriarty, Kathleen
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Transparency in Specifications and PRISM-clas… Ted Lemon