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RE: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

"Glen Zorn" <gwz@net-zen.net> Tue, 01 December 2009 04:52 UTC

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Subject: RE: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:51:28 -0800
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Arnt Gulbrandsen [mailto://arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no] writes:

> Simon Josefsson writes:
> > There is no requirement in the IETF process for organizations to
> > disclose patents as far as I can see. The current approach of only
> > having people participate, and disclose patents, in the IETF is easy
> > to work around by having two persons in an organization doing
> > different things: one works on specifying and standardizing
> > technology, and the other is working on patenting the technology.
> 
> How can you practically avoid the first person knowing about it?

It seems very easy to me, and need not imply any kind of plotting.  Many
large companies offer incentives for filing patents and in that case it is
in one's own self interest to be on the lookout for patentable ideas
whatever the source may be...

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> Arnt
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