Re: Subscriber List Damage

Michael Thomas <> Mon, 30 June 2008 22:48 UTC

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1) Have you brought this up with the mailman folks? I've interacted with
    them and they seem like a responsive set of folks. I'm sure that 
this sort
    of thing would horrify them.
2) 3 years since the last backup? Oi.


Glen wrote:
> All -
> I was asked by the IAOC to post a message to the IETF and SIP lists, 
> to ensure that people were aware that the subscriber lists for the 
> IETF and SIP lists were damaged as a result of an anomaly in TMDA and 
> Mailman that occurred Thursday night.
> Basically, TMDA misbehaved, and, in the process, caused Mailman to 
> encounter a transient failure in the reading of its databases for 
> these two lists.  As a result, rather than simply holding the mail and 
> retrying it, Mailman decided to discard the current list databases and 
> re-create them from 3-year-old data, for both the IETF and the SIP lists.
> *sigh*
> No email was lost to the system or the archives; however, some people 
> may have missed some messages, or may still not be resubscribed to the 
> list.
> Of course we restored the files from backups; however, we want to make 
> sure that everyone gets the mail they missed, and that everyone is 
> subscribed to these lists who wishes to be subscribed.
> So...
> If you're reading this message in your email box, you're subscribed to 
> the list identified in the subject line, and all should be okay.
> If you're reading this message in the archives, wondering why you're 
> not getting list mail, please take a moment to resubscribe yourself to 
> the list, which should resolve your problem.
> And regardless, if you feel you missed any mail, we do have the 
> archives available for your reference.
> IETF List Subscription Link:
> IETF List Archive Link:
> SIP List Subscription Link:
> SIP List Archive Link:
> We are in the home stretch of getting TMDA removed and replaced on the 
> servers, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused by this issue. 
> Because server problems apparently happen only in the dead of night, 
> you can be sure that we feel any and all pain anyone may be experiencing.
> If you need any assistance, please contact the IETF Secretariat, using 
> the links at:
> Thank you,
> Glen Barney
> IT Director
> AMS (IETF Secretariat)
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