Re: Current mailbombing is instigated by FSF
TSG <tglassey@earthlink.net> Fri, 27 February 2009 23:56 UTC
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Carsten Bormann wrote: > http://www.fsf.org/news/reoppose-tls-authz-standard > > While I have a lot of sympathy for the cause, I have very little > sympathy for the methods. I have NO sympathy for the cause. > Rendering a mailing list that might be useful for actually resolving > the issue inoperative by a "campaign" is idiotic. > Somebody from I* (the IETF chair may not be the right person this > time) should call them and explain that this is not the way to win > friends and impress people. > > Gruesse, Carsten > > PS: kill-filing messages CCed to campaigns@ietf.org might help a bit. > I don't know if the procedures allow to do this at the mailing list > level. Boy do I agree with you - The creation of a standard *** should *** have nothing to do with IP rights or licensing. The creation of any standard should JUST be based on whether proper vetting happened and whether the minimum number of ports was created and formally tested for interoperability. Anyone - and I mean ANYONE should be able to get a Standard by making the steps happen. Todd Glassey > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >
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