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Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb

Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Tue, 03 December 2013 15:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:06:25 -0500
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Agreed. The problem is not that people cannot choose between S/MIME or PGP. The problem is few people use anything.

On Dec 3, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> wrote:

> On Dec 3, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And twenty years later the market still hasn't decided between S/MIME and PGP.
>> Or maybe it has decided none of the above. 
> 
> S/MIME has wide implementation, but little deployment.   PGP has little implementation and little deployment.   I think the what the market has said is "we don't really care about this."
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