Re: leader statements
Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> Wed, 09 October 2013 21:21 UTC
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From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: leader statements
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:21:45 +0200
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* Brian E Carpenter wrote: >Either we trust our current and future chairs, on certain occasions, >to speak in our name without there being a discursive debate in advance, >or we will have no voice on those occasions. We should think before we speak, and discursive debate is our collective thought process. Accordingly I would expect Chairs to anticipate and fa- cilitate debates that might be necessary or useful, especially on issues where they find giving the collective a voice may be important. It seems implausible to me that there would be notably many such occasions. Maybe because as German I am inclined towards disregarding phatic expressions. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
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