Re: Change in I-D announcement format

mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Wed, 13 June 2012 13:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: Change in I-D announcement format
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To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:28:40 +0200
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Russ Housley wrote:
> Brian:
> 
> There was no announcement that this change was about to be deployed;
> however, there was a long discussion of the change.  It started with
> a request for the HTML version of the I-D instead of the plain
> text version.  At the end of the discussion the decision was to use
> the Datatracker URL as it allows anyone to get the plaintext or a
> diff with just one more click.

I recall a different outcome, because this reasoning looks flawed to me.

Tools that process the announce-Emails automatically
will be unable to "perform another mouse-click" in order to
get to a page where there is an URL to the TXT document, 
so that option does not exist.

Those who use a graphical frontend that is sensitive to follow
URLs on mouse-click, will probably prefer the HTML variant
over the TXT variant.

The two changes that I would appreciate:
Put the direct TXT URL back into the announcement.
Fix the new URL to the HTML version in the announcment.

-Martin