Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board

Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> Wed, 18 February 2009 02:29 UTC

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:24:41 -0500
From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 05:40:46PM -0800, Lawrence Rosen wrote:
> Steven Bellovin wrote:
> > All that said, the above is my strawman that I've just torched.  This
> > is why we need a draft -- until we have one, we won't know if it's a
> > plausible, useful idea or not.  In fact, a metadraft -- one that simply
> > set out the questions that a concrete proposal should address -- would
> > be a worthwhile contribution in its own regard.
> 
> In honor of open source, I'm glad to submit someone else's work as my first
> draft: http://www.w3.org/2004/pp/psig/.
> 
> This is an effective working model. I'm sure it would have to be revised to
> fit IETF's more democratic operations. 

This model works if you have closed working groups and no one is
allowed to participate without first going through a huge amount of
bureaucratic rigamarole, and where someone can't even poke their head
into a meeting room without being explicitly invited by the chair.  It
doesn't work at all in an IETF model which is much more open.

So you've done the equivalent of submit Windows source code and assume
that it can be ported to a Unix system "left as an exercise to the
reader"....  care to give a detailed suggestion about *how* it could
be revised to work with the IETF's more open procedures, and still be
useful in terms of meeting your stated goals?

       	  	   	   - Ted