Re: ietf.org end-to-end principle

[Leif Johansson <[e-mail]>]

On 2016-03-17 18:48, joel jaeggli wrote:
> On 3/17/16 2:50 AM, Josh Howlett wrote:
>>> The takeaway for me is that the end-to-end principle is dead. The
>>> times where all intelligence should be in end hosts only, no
>>> middleboxes, and KISS have gone, and techniques going in the
>>> opposite direction are not only in use, but even embraced by IETF
>>> operations.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> But the fact that these solutions exist points to a need unmet by
>> existing e2e approaches. Someone in IETF operations had presumably
>> thought out their requirements when this service was procured.
>> Embedding e2e within a solution that satisfies those same operational
>> requirements sounds like a potential IETF WG charter in the making.
> 
> I'm  not really sure what you folks are talking about anymore. A CDN
> whether internal or a third party is an extension of the applications
> stack, not a bump in the wire.
> 
> building scalable performant low latency services is a distributed
> systems problem and there are a number of areas of the ietf activity
> (all of them probably) involved in doing.

very true