Re: ISMS working group and charter problems
Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Mon, 12 September 2005 18:20 UTC
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From: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
To: Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com>
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Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, dcrocker@bbiw.net, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: ISMS working group and charter problems
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>>>>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:42:33 -0400, Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com> said: >> I believe that the ISMS WG's proposal is about ADDING the >> possibility of SNMP over TCP, not about CHANGING SNMP to use TCP. >> UDP will still work. Margaret> That is correct. UDP and the current SNMPv3 USM security Margaret> mechanisms will still work. They will also remain mandatory Margaret> parts of SNMPv3. Though it's important to note that the reason for the creation of the WG was that although the security features in SNMPv3 definitely worked, they were hard to use. Thus operators didn't always deploy SNMPv3 because it was a pain to set up the user base. By saying that we're going to now allow SNMPv3 over TCP to use their existing user infrastructures, I agree that you are not saying you can't use SNMPv3/USM over UDP as you've always been able to. However, since many don't want to use that today I think their choice will still boil down to SNMPv3/ISMS/TCP or nothing if they're unwilling to take the deployment hit that was already preventing wider adoption of SNMPv3/USM in the first place. Yes, SNMPv3/USM/UDP will still be just as usable as it was before. But it still won't be used as much as it should be. -- Wes Hardaker Sparta, Inc. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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