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Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Tue, 15 April 2008 03:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:49:57 -0600
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Hi -

> From: "Ned Freed" <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
> To: "Henrik Levkowetz" <henrik@levkowetz.com>
> Cc: "Ned Freed" <ned.freed@mrochek.com>; <ietf@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
...
> And there's that word "automatically". There is nothing in the text that says
> such arrangements have to be automatic.
...

I have the same problem with the text.  It says:

> * IETF mailing lists MUST provide a mechanism for legitimate technical
> participants to bypass moderation, challenge-response, or other techniques
> that would interfere with a prompt technical debate on the mailing list
> without requiring such participants to receive list traffic.

The stated requirement is that it must not "interfere with a prompt
technical debate". Clearly, that rules out anything requiring human
intervention.  What do you have in mind that would allow the
spammer^H^H^H^H^H^H^H participant to post without subscribing
and without interacting with a chair or list administrator?

Randy

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