Re: Comments for <I-D of Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page>

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:39:56 -0700
To: Abdussalam Baryun <>
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Subject: Re: Comments for <I-D of Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page>
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Hi Abdussalam,
At 03:51 20-06-2012, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
>  I refere to the IETF process of: preparing the I-D by WG,
>Community-accepting, Submitting, and IESG-approval. The new
>Tao-update-process of the draft is not including the community. The
>IETF process in draft is as : individual preparing, individual submit
>to Editor, Editor decides and accepts, Editor submitting, and
>The above are two different IETF submission streams, which may be
>consistent if we include *the community* in accepting submission to

RFC 4844 discusses about RFC Series and the streams used by the 
various communities to publish a RFC.  One of those streams is for 
IETF Documents.  In the I-D being discussed, the document will be 
published on a web page.  The IESG will choose Paul Hoffman as the 
editor.  I gather that those details are not a problem.

draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-02 mentions that the changes will be 
discussed on an open, Tao-specific mailing list.  The second 
paragraph of Section 2 and the third paragraph are not so clear about 
changes, i.e. the editor accepts proposed changes and the IESG 
accepts proposed changes.  Are you suggesting that the changes should 
be discussed in a Working Group or something else?

BTW, RFC 4677 should be moved to Historic instead of Obsolete.