Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found

Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com> Tue, 23 May 2023 16:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found
From: Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 12:21:33 -0400
Cc: "John C. Klensin" <john-ietf@jck.com>, Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>, IETF Discussion List <ietf@ietf.org>
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interesting - I checked the IETF mailing list archive for that date and do not see an ID announcement
for that ID (there are announcements for other IDs)

Scott

> On May 23, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:
> 
> While agreeing with John's point, the document in question was originally submitted as an internet draft - May 4, 1997 draft-rivest-sexp-00.txt
> 
> Thus, rather than asking Ron if he would get MIT to publish, it would probably be politer to ask if he is willing for the IETF to complete its process.
> 
> On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:32 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
> Marc,
> 
> IANAL, but I would assume that publication as in Informational
> RFC, with all of the IPR issues and permissions that go with it,
> would require explicit permission from Rivest and/or MIT.  It
> might be far easier for you to reach out to him, point out that
> it has disappeared, and request/suggest a more stable location
> and URL for this important paper.  MIT is certainly able to do
> that, usually honors requests from Institute Professors unless
> there is strong reason not to, and the work required would be a
> note from you to him and a note from him to the powers-that-be,
> not the rather tedious process required to get an Informational
> RFC organized and published.
> 
>    john
> 
> 
> --On Sunday, May 21, 2023 06:28 -0700 Marc Petit-Huguenin
> <marc@petit-huguenin.org> wrote:
> 
> > https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/Sexp.txt is no longer
> > reachable.  This is a document I use often in my work so I'd
> > like to have a more stable reference, like an Informational
> > RFC.
> > 
> > Is there any interest in trying to do that?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > P.S.:  I attached my copy of that document.  Thanks to Zotero
> > for making the Web a little less annoying.
> 
>