Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Thu, 13 February 2020 20:50 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 15:50:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 and Corona Virus?
To: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:37 PM Kathleen Moriarty <
kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> There's one consideration you left out -
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:18 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2020-02-13, at 15:55, Kathleen Moriarty <
>> Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > That said, my travel is mostly booked and I am planning to attend, but
>> will watch to see what happens with any IETF pandemic planning.
>>
>> Which is what is probably true for most of us.
>>
>> We already know that companies’ and countries’ policies will place some
>> limitations on the meeting (which actually is having some limited impact on
>> planning for the meeting).  With the knowledge we have today (2020-02-13),
>> we can assume that we will have a productive meeting, not the least because
>> we have good remote attendance possibilities for those who can’t (or choose
>> not to) make it.
>>
>> On a health/responsibility level (and, again with the knowledge of
>> today), there simply is no reason to cancel the meeting.  It is still way
>> more likely for an IETF attendee to have a traffic accident than to be
>> impacted by COVID-19.
>>
>
> Individuals from an entire nation likely cannot attend what is meant to be
> a global meeting. This deserves some thought.
>

I agree that this is unfortunate, but I don't see how it follows from this
that nobody else should meet.

--Richard




>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>
>>
>> Now that knowledge we have today may change (a.k.a. “surprises”), so the
>> IETF leadership needs to stay in a position to make different decisions
>> based on emerging situations, and new expert advice that may become
>> available.
>>
>> I still think of the plenary where it was announced that we would meet in
>> Korea and somebody went to the microphone with the concern that North Korea
>> could be attacking Seoul at any time.  Yes, COVID-19 can attack at any
>> time, but it is just one of many risks that we have to juggle.
>>
>> Grüße, Carsten
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>