Re: NomCom 2019 Call for Community Feedback

Kathleen Moriarty <> Mon, 04 November 2019 15:21 UTC

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From: Kathleen Moriarty <>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 10:20:48 -0500
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Subject: Re: NomCom 2019 Call for Community Feedback
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Cc: Kyle Rose <>,, ietf <>
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 8:44 AM Paul Wouters <> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Nov 2019, Kyle Rose wrote:
> > Surprised? Maybe. I'm personally not surprised: being AD is basically a
> full-time job, and unless one is
> > independently wealthy a candidate needs support from his/her employer
> for a 2-year (and often 4-year) commitment.
> > Conservatively, that's a $600,000 investment for a 2-year term, and you
> don't even get your logo in the credits
> > for the trouble. It's hard to make the business case for that.
> This is indeed the core of the problem. And perhaps we need to think
> about how it can be addressed in other ways.
For years we've had a good list for Security, so I am very disappointed to
see no one up except the incumbent.  I do see value in going through the
process even if you are not selected so that the NomCom has a choice and if
anything were to happen to either incumbent (new position that didn't
support them, lottery, etc.), there would be a place to start.  It's up to
the incumbents to invite others to put their names int he hat and that
works quite well.  I did nominate a few people when I saw there was no one
there, but the incumbents for all positions really should be reaching out
individually and discussing the pro/cons, offering to talk to management,

In terms of benefits, one is having the opportunity to see the work across
the IETF.  I found this quite helpful to be able to take a step back and
think about the work happening across areas and what the impact of that
would be collectively.  It's a really interesting exercise and could be
beneficial to your organization when you step back into your role with this
expanded view and knowledge.  I'm almost done writing a book from these
observations.  Benoit also published just after stepping down and it helped
him get promoted to the next level in Cisco as he clearly demonstrated
technical leadership across industry in one of his areas of expertise.
Alia moved on to a new type of role for her as she gained management
experience and it provided an opportunity to move in a new direction.
There are benefits to the individual and to the organization, but you have
to think about what that might be and how you will go about it.  This is
helpful when justifying the time that will be spent in the position.

Best regards,



Best regards,