Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encryption at the IETF
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Tue, 02 June 2015 14:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encryption at the IETF
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > > Hiya, > > On 02/06/15 14:44, Joe Abley wrote: > > > Note that this is not an attempt to start a conversation about > > whether PGP is usable, or whether S/MIME is better. I will fall off > > my chair in surprise if it doesn't turn into one, though. > > We have a list for such discussion [1] if folks feel the need. > And I know PHB has an interesting idea to try to merge the two > in terms of message formats. I'm not sure that's feasible but > discuss on [1] if you feel the need. And please don't have that > discussion here unless there's a reason for it to be here and > not there:-) > Actually merge the two as far as the user is aware. Obviously, the more components are shared, the easier things become for implementations. But adding message formats is not the hard part. I'll probably have something for endymail next week. The bigger issue for me is 'mailing list'. I can easily write a protocol for an end to end secure collaborative forum as a Web Service but there is no way that I expect to do anything useful with legacy SMTP infrastructure as the transport. SMTP sucks as a mailing list protocol. What we need is a return to something that is a bit more like NNTP which began life as an attempt to make mailing list interactions more efficient.
- Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encryption … Joe Abley
- RE: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Jari Arkko
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Xiaoyin Liu
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Xiaoyin Liu
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Joe Abley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Hector Santos
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Joe Abley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Måns Nilsson
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… John Levine
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… John Levine
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Nico Williams
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Nico Williams
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Joe Abley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Joe Abley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Joe Abley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Paul Wouters
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Måns Nilsson
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Matt Mathis
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Warren Kumari
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Hector Santos
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Måns Nilsson
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Joe Abley
- Re: Proposed Proposed Statement on e-mail encrypt… Glen