Re: Proposed Update to Note Well
Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com> Fri, 22 June 2012 17:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposed Update to Note Well
From: Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: > On 6/22/12 10:03 AM, Stephan Wenger wrote: >> Strike "actively". It's a loophole and adds no value. > > Sure. > >> I don't know how a "contribution" can be "controlled" by >> a patent. > > Sure. I misread your earlier note. > >> Using "related" as the broadest possible term that IMO >> may just be supported by BCP79: > > BCP79 says "covered". > >> "If you believe that a patent controlled by your employer >> or sponsor is related to your contribution, then you must >> disclose that patent." >> >> I'm quite sure that the term "believe" is appropriate. It's not >> the Note Well that allows trucks go through, it's BCP79. However, >> ignoring my own advice (stick to terminology used in BCP79) I may >> settle for "aware of": >> >> "If you are aware of a patent controlled by your employer >> or sponsor that is related to your contribution, then you must >> disclose that patent." > > Why is it limited to employers and sponsors? I might control it myself > directly, or just know that a patent covers it (BCP79, Section 6.1.1). > > Keeping it as short as possible, I suggest: > > If you are aware that a contribution of yours is covered by > patents, you need to disclose that fact. Shouldn't that be s/patents/patents or patent applications/ ? Regards Marshall > > OK, enough wordsmithing from me today... > > /psa
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- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Noel Chiappa
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Peter Saint-Andre
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- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Barry Leiba
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- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Scott Brim
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Sam Hartman
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Jorge Contreras
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well David Morris
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Noel Chiappa
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Salvatore Loreto
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Dan York
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Noel Chiappa
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Barry Leiba
- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well Peter Saint-Andre
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- Re: Proposed Update to Note Well John C Klensin
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