Re: A sad farewell

"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> Fri, 06 November 2020 14:46 UTC

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: A sad farewell
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Great feedback - will make that change now!
Jason

On 11/6/20, 9:09 AM, "ietf on behalf of Adrian Farrel" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:

    Jason,

    Thanks for this.

    Just so you know, I've only been to a couple of board calls, and I noted the AOB section, but it didn't register with me that the floor was open for questions from all-comers. Not that I had questions to ask, and it may be that I just happened to hit the calls where mentioning that anyone could ask a question was accidentally dropped.

    Maybe make it a little clearer in the agenda? E.g....
    Part I: Public
    7. AOB and Questions from Any Dial-in Observer

    Cheers,
    Adrian

    -----Original Message-----
    From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason
    Sent: 06 November 2020 13:52
    To: ietf@ietf.org
    Subject: Re: A sad farewell

    Since you mention feedback via a form below, I wanted to note that people may wish to join next week's IETF LLC board call and ask questions during the open session (I usually ask during Any Other Business / AOB). See https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ietf.org/about/groups/llc-board/meeting-info/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TJW2od8KK8HrVslCODg431FlxlwWD79gbqy1NtfSJKBQ7DJxkwjSRL57-YQsu2Z-hl0-PQ$  for the Webex link -- 12 November at 20:00 UTC.

    As a side note, it is quite rare that more than 1 or 2 observers attend and I can't recall the last time anyone asked a question during AOB.

    Regards
    Jason