Re: Possible BofF question -- I18n (was: Re: Possible OBF question -- I18n)

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 31 May 2018 16:32 UTC

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 12:32:06 -0400
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: Possible BofF question -- I18n (was: Re: Possible OBF question -- I18n)
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On Thu, 31 May 2018, tom p. wrote:
> I have always seen the centre of gravity of i18n as firmly in Europe.  I
> recall the struggles 40 years ago to persuade American organisations to
> take it seriously; I have always seen ASCII as an American response
> to the issue.

All the work I've done recently has been with people from India and China. 
There is a lot of interest in EAI in India since apparently one of the 
states is planning to give out e-mail accounts to go with the Aadhaar IDs.

Personally I don't care where we do it so long as competent people show 
up.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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