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Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 08 July 2020 14:12 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 09:11:54 -0500
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Subject: Re: WG Review: Stay Home Meet Only Online (shmoo)
To: Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
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Just to echo Mirja,

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:54 AM Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The point where the IAB is more directly involved in reviewing of new work
> is the BoF coordination call as well as acting as BoF shepherds and by
> providing BoF reports. I believe most members of the IAB are actively
> monitoring new chartering work. At least I can definitely confirm that I
> and our IESG liaison are aware of all charter discussions.
>
> Mirja
>

The last time the IAB wrote this down, was at
https://www.iab.org/documents/correspondence-reports-documents/2012-2/iab-member-roles-in-evaluating-new-work-proposals/.
That was still the process when I left the IESG in 2019.

When Alia Atlas and I did the tutorial on "bringing new work to the IETF"
at IETF 103/Bangkok, we said on slide 26 that the IAB's role in evaluating
new work proposals was the best-kept secret at the IETF ;-)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-edu-sessl-bringing-new-work-to-the-ietf-00

Best,

Spencer

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