Independent Stream (was Re: Cross-area review (was Meeting rotation))

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

On 12/25/2015 8:26 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> If they don't want AD review, they can publish through the ISE!   I don't
> think many people realize this is an option, but AFAIK that's the whole point
> of having an ISE: to publish things that really are requests for comments.


Well, ummm...  The Independent Stream has changed substantially.

It now includes anonymous reviews that attempt substantive quality 
assessment and content revision demands, or outright rejections based on 
those reviews and without discussion -- that is, without an attempt to 
ensure the accuracy or relevance of the review comments.

So while the brief published statement of policy that the Independent 
Stream uses rather liberal criteria, my two recent experiences with it 
demonstrate otherwise.

In effect, the Independent Stream has moved from:

      "Is this at all relevant to the general IETF community and is it 
written in a relatively competent/clear manner (and does not not 
conflict with current IETF work)?"

to:

      "Do we think this is something the IETF should be associated with 
and do we agree that it is useful content?"

My description sounds pretty harsh.  I wish I could formulate more 
palatable language, but my two, recent experience really do point 
towards what I've described.


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net