Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

How about the IESG simply rescinds its decision in this week's
meeting? I don't see any need for an appeal; if there's a
prima facie violation of the disclosure rules, it's just a
management item. Much less bother than an appeal.

Of course, the rescission would be subject to appeal, but
that's another story.

   Brian

On 2009-11-19 15:02, Cullen Jennings wrote:
> 
> On October 8, the IESG approved the registration of
> application/3gpp-ims+xml Media Type.  On Nov 2, RIM filed an IPR
> disclosure related to this at
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1219/
> 
> The associated patent, filed Oct 2008, is at
> 
> http://www.google.com/patents?id=Mk7GAAAAEBAJ
> 
> and the related draft is
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bakker-sipping-3gpp-ims-xml-body-handling
> 
> I will note John-Luc Bakker from RIM is an author of both the patent
> and  and the draft. The draft has been widely discussed at IETF with no
> mention of IPR before this. As an IESG member, I was not aware of this
> IPR at the time the approval was made and I do not believe any other
> IESG members were aware of it. I do believe the discussion would have
> been different had the IESG been aware of this IPR.
> 
> If anyone thinks this is, ah, inappropriate, I would recommend they
> appeal the IESG decision to approve this. (see section 6.5 of RFC 2026
> for how this works).  An IETF LC on this in the future would allow the
> community to make an decision that was informed of the IPR.
> 
> Cullen
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