Re: Last Call: <draft-campbell-art-rfc5727-update-02.txt> (Improving the Organizational Flexibility of the SIP Change Process.) to Best Current Practice

Richard Shockey <> Wed, 09 December 2015 02:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-campbell-art-rfc5727-update-02.txt> (Improving the Organizational Flexibility of the SIP Change Process.) to Best Current Practice
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That assumes that some of us believe that the RAI APP merger was a good idea in the first place.

I do not believe it was a good idea. And reality seems to confirm my belief. 

On 12/8/15, 3:59 PM, "ietf on behalf of John Levine" < on behalf of> wrote:

>>The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
>>the following document:
>>- 'Improving the Organizational Flexibility of the SIP Change Process.'
>>  <draft-campbell-art-rfc5727-update-02.txt> as Best Current Practice
>I've taken a look and generally support this draft, which brings the
>DISPATCH WG model to the new combined RAI area.
>Two editorial requests: please give it a name that better reflects
>what it's about, something like "Operation of DISPATCH style working
>groups and the SIP Change Process."  since it's about 95% about
>DISPATCH and has only a few sentences saying SIPCORE still does
>what it does.
>The other is just to update its contents: the merger of APPS and RAI
>into ART has happened, and it is my impression from the Yokohama
>meeting that DISPATCH still does what it does, and has absorbed some
>of the chartering stuff that would otherwise go through APPSAWG.  This
>may not quite be right, but whatever we decided we're doing, it would
>be nice if the draft described it.