Re: Montevideo statement
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Wed, 09 October 2013 06:45 UTC
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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:44:39 -0400
From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
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Subject: Re: Montevideo statement
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Dear colleagues, On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:55:08PM -0700, SM wrote: > This is the second time that the IAB has issued a statement Speaking only (empahtically only) for myself, I quite strongly disagree. The IAB has issued no statement in this case. The text as posted is quite clear: ---%<---cut here--- "The leaders of organizations … have met" […] Russ Housley, Chair Internet Architecture Board (IAB) --->%---cut here--- That does not say that the IAB has issued a statement. On the contrary, the IAB did not issue a statement. I think the difference between some individuals issuing a statement in their capacity as chairs and CEOs and so on, and the body for which they are chair or CEO or so on issuing a similar statement, is an important one. We ought to attend to it. Please note that this message is not in any way a comment on such leadership meetings. In addition, for the purposes of this discussion I refuse either to affirm or deny concurrence in the IAB chair's statement. I merely request that we, all of us, attend to the difference between "the IAB Chair says" and "the IAB says". Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
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- Re: Montevideo statement Ted Lemon
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- Re: "The core Internet institutions abandon the U… Jorge Amodio
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