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Re: Tombstone README for FTP service

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Thu, 28 April 2022 18:06 UTC

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On 4/28/22 13:35, Julian Reschke wrote:

>> WebDAV probably has enough features for this.   I've just never seen it
>> used in this way.
>>
>>   * Can a user anonymously and easily mount a webdav remote file system
>>     as a file system under each of linux, macos, windows?
>
> That was true 10 years ago (with some interop problems in the MS
> client), but support might have degraded since because
> Google/Apple/Microsoft have been pushing their proprietary stuff instead.

Seems like IETF's very purpose is to render "proprietary stuff" 
irrelevant, instead of letting the Big Companies dictate what it works 
on and what kinds of people can work on it as it does far too often now.

>>   * Are there GUI interfaces to that permit operations on multiple files
>>     at once (identified by patterns and/or a picker) on webdav remote
>>     file systems?
>
> The protocol does not support wildcard operations, but GUIs might
> emulate them.

I think it's sufficient, if inefficient, if a client can list the files 
that are available and do it's own wildcarding.

Keith

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