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RE: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Mon, 30 November 2020 17:43 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>, Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
CC: "ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com" <ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com>, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 17:43:23 +0000
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Hi Tom!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 12:34 PM
> To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
> Cc: ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com; Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>;
> Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
> 
> On 30/11/2020 16:11, Roman Danyliw wrote:
> > Hi Larry!
> >
> > From: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 11:09 AM
> > To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
> > Cc: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>; ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com;
> > Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>; ietf@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
> >
> > I provided a link to MIME Sniffing Standard
> > (whatwg.org)<https://mimesniff.spec.whatwg.org/>
> > but in particular, there is no reliable way to obtain the HTML + SVG rendering
> using a browser and "Save As".
> > The WPACK "working group" is working on another way that "Save As" might
> work (rather than multipart/related) if they are successful, and if the browsers
> decide to adopt it.
> >
> > [Roman] Thanks for clarifying.  However, I don’t think that consistent
> HTML+SVG saving is the use case in question.  I believe it was that browsers
> were not consistently downloading text files.  As to the “save” vs. “save as”, I
> won’t presuppose the workflow of users.
> 
> But I don't have the option.  From my browser (IE) I only have 'Save as ...' and
> the 'Save' option is greyed out and this is the behaviour I am used to when
> accessing RFC-Editor, data tracker, IETF etc and I think that that is the case for
> most if not all web sites.  My alternative is to select all, copy and paste into a
> word processor or editor but it is not an approach I would commend.

Can you try Control-S or F10-File-Save-As, these are my options on IE 11.  Screen cap attached.

Regards,
Roman

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