Re: several messages
Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Sat, 15 November 2008 13:03 UTC
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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: Chris Lewis <clewis@nortel.com>
Subject: Re: several messages
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Chris Lewis wrote: >> DNSBL system is organized to send NDNs rather than rejecting >> messages or because there are relays (including SMTP-handling >> firewalls) involved -- things are basically hopeless because the >> number of mailing list servers that are able to accept NDN >> messages, correlate them with particular addresses on particular >> mailing lists, and take action on that basis is, well, small. > > I don't agree. In fact, most ESPs, Yahoo, and many common list > implementations (eg: mailman and I believe LISTSERV) have and use this > capability now. With ESPs, for list pruning. At times, I've become > quite familiar with Yahoo's "your subscription bounced too often, I've > unsubscribed you, here's how to resubscribe, and <here> is your missed > messages". Annoying, but no great harm. Hasn't caused me to change how > the filters that caused those bounces work. FWIW, on one mailman mailing-list, I've received the following a couple of times; I've not received it on others, which may mean that those lists don't enable it, or that the mails on those lists have not triggered rejections. I suspect the former. "Your membership in the mailing list FOO has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 24-Jul-2008. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. ... [what follows is the URL to re-enable membership immediately] " I have found this message incredibly helpful, and I'd like to see a wider application of similar behaviour. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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