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Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard

Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Fri, 17 July 2015 11:39 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:38:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard
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+1 on support

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> wrote:
> On 16 July 2015 at 00:44, Joe Hildebrand <hildjj@cursive.net> wrote:
>> I don't see any mention of the CAB Forum stuff in the draft.  Has anyone
>> done the analysis to see if CAB Forum members really will issue certs to
>> .onion addresses if we do this?  Do they issue certs for .example or .local
>> today?
>
> Not only will they issue certificates .onion, but they will not be
> required to revoke the certificates they have _already_ issued, and
> are using happily. I know Facebook and Blockchain, a few certs for
> each, and maybe a third I'm forgetting. That will only go up over
> time.
>
> On the topics of metrics, indeed https://metrics.torproject.org/ is
> the place.  You missed a zero though. It's 2 *million* directly
> connecting users/day on average, not 200K.
>
> On the topic of carrot, I would suggest .carrot.alt =)  I would also
> ask about your user base.
>
> On the topic of TLD vs Special Use: Yes I can confirm we want a
> special use name, not a TLD.
>
> On the topic of reliable resource,
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/ is a great URL, this
> is where we standardize our specifications and update them. Our
> process is different from the IETF, but there is one.  rend-spec.txt
> in particular deals with .onion - but you would need to work with the
> rest of the specs to get that far.  Barring operator accidents or some
> absurd explosion in DNS price, I expect torproject.org will live 40+
> years reliably. It may not be as future-reliable as iana.org or
> ietf.org, but that URL, and/or "the torspec repository" is probably as
> reasonably reliable as any other offsite link.
>
> I support this draft.
>
> -tom
>



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