Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt> (Promoting Compliance with Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules) to Informational RFC
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 25 May 2012 00:25 UTC
Return-Path: <stpeter@stpeter.im>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8523F11E808D for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 24 May 2012 17:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xs4TP3o1-aNg for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 24 May 2012 17:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1443111E8081 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Thu, 24 May 2012 17:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [216.17.175.135]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDC144005A; Thu, 24 May 2012 18:41:27 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID: <4FBED16C.3080008@stpeter.im>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 18:25:16 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: SM <sm@resistor.net>
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt> (Promoting Compliance with Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules) to Informational RFC
References: <CBC48C89.8671C%stewe@stewe.org> <4FBC113C.3050707@stpeter.im> <6.2.5.6.2.20120522233611.08d14c78@resistor.net> <4FBEAFC8.40703@stpeter.im> <6.2.5.6.2.20120524154050.09714b10@resistor.net>
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120524154050.09714b10@resistor.net>
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 00:25:18 -0000
On 5/24/12 5:10 PM, SM wrote: > Hi Peter, > At 15:01 24-05-2012, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Even if a document is mentioned in a charter as a likely starting point, >> the chairs still need to make an explicit call for adoption of that >> document as a WG item. > > Ok. > >> The slides and audio are part of the record. > > The audio seemed like a grey area to me. I'll keep that discussion for > another day. > >> Naturally it would be best if the disclosure were explicitly called out >> in the minutes, as well. However, I agree with you that a formal >> disclosure is always best. Let me chat about this with Tim. > > Ok. > >> > What we were are looking for here is whether there are any claims. The >> > easy path is to remove the sentence and keep the IPR question for the >> > follow-up question. >> >> Now your wording is not clear to me. What do you mean by "the follow-up >> question"? > > The possible steps are: > > 1. Reminder checks whether there are claims of IPR that needs > to be disclosed > > 2. Someone mentions a claim > > 3. Ask the WG whether they are ok given the new information > > 4. consensus call on the technical work > > Step 3 is the follow-up question. I consider it as separate as what is > being asked of the WG participant is not clear. Some guidance is needed > so participants know what they are being asked to do or what they can > say (see past OAUTH thread as an example). Got it. Thanks! Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… SM
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… SM
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Sam Hartman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Russ Housley
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Sam Hartman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Last Call: <draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt>… Peter Saint-Andre