Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison manager
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Thu, 01 May 2014 16:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison manager
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On 5/1/2014 8:26 AM, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > > On May 1, 2014:11:02 AM, at 11:02 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote: > >> >> On 5/1/2014 5:12 AM, Thomas Nadeau wrote: >>> >>> APIs are not that useful unless there is code behind them. >> >> Ultimately, yes. But the code represents an instance of the API. > > That depends on your perspective. These days the code IS the API, in > particular open source code. Standards bodies do not need to define the > APIs; implementation communities do that already. The IETF should > probably stick to on-the-wire protocols. A protocol is defined by: - internal state - message "on the wire" formats - upper layer events - lower layer events (message arrivals/departures) - time events Leave any of the 6 above out and you have an incomplete spec. The "on the wire" part is only a fraction of what's needed. If you don't believe that, then write a TCP implementation from the header format alone, and let's see how well it works. Joe
- Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison manager IAB Chair
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- RE: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Chaitanya Dhareshwar
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Melinda Shore
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Hector Santos
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… David Morris
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… John C Klensin
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Thomas Nadeau
- RE: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- RE: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Joe Touch
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Ted Lemon
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Ted Lemon
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Dave Cridland
- RE: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: Call for volunteers for C/C++ API liaison man… Doug Royer