Re: DMARC and yahoo

Doug Royer <douglasroyer@gmail.com> Wed, 16 April 2014 01:44 UTC

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On 04/15/2014 07:22 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 06:34:03PM -0600, Doug Royer wrote:
>> Yahoo does not seem to require DMARK. Simply use one of the other two
>> options. I use SPF for my domains, and it makes it through their systems
>> just fine.
> You seem to be confused about what the problem is.  ...

Yes, I did misunderstand. Now I wonder if the yahoo techs understood the 
effects.

> Do you have another suggestion about what the mailing list server is
> supposed to do?
>
Munge the from address to be the list-name@yahoo ? Odd, but would that work?


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