Re: Planned changes to registration payments & deadlines

Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 25 April 2018 19:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: Planned changes to registration payments & deadlines
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:27:56 +0300
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Cc: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, ietf@ietf.org
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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> On 25 Apr 2018, at 10:56, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/04/2018 08:25, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>> 
>> PS: I realise my workflow may be a bit of a corner-case, but I'm
>> starting to regret that the IAOC didn't just bump the meeting fee
>> and leave it at that - another US$100 or something on the fee could
>> even work out cheaper for me compared to the time spent dealing more
>> with my local bureaucrats... and for them having to deal more with me
>> too of course;-)
>> 
>> 
> 
> I would rather commit early and save the $175, particularly as I see a day when it
> will be my $175 paid out of taxed income.

I agree that would be great. The thing that’s missing is a way to commit early and then pay later.

I don’t see how this can be done technically without having to go to court with people who changed their mind.

Yoav