Re: (long/architectural version) Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-uri-10.txt> (The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) DNS Resource Record) to Proposed Standard

Andrew Newton <andy@hxr.us> Thu, 26 February 2015 15:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: (long/architectural version) Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-uri-10.txt> (The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) DNS Resource Record) to Proposed Standard
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<snipping a lot of text...>

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:16 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:


> If (as I believe to be the case) the main
> argument for this URI RR is that it is less problematic than
> NAPTR, S-NAPTR, U-NAPTR, and (maybe) SRV, then this document
> should probably include a plan about phasing some of those, or
> at least some instances of some of those, out.


I was unaware that there was a need for only one way to do this. It seems
to me that the multiple methods could co-exist without collision. While I
agree with your observations about these methods, I do not like the idea of
the IETF mandating single solutions unnecessarily (in its specifications).


>   If, instead,
> these five (or fewer, see below) types of potentially-iterative
> indirect references are to exist in parallel, it becomes
> reasonable to ask that a standards-track document explain how
> many more of them are expected or why we should assume this one
> is the last.
>

I'm confused. How can we know a better idea will come along until it has
actually surfaced?



> While multiple ways to do the
> same thing are sometimes an advantage, they are more often a
> source of confusion (and, again, potential bad implementation
> behavior and attack vectors).   It would be _really_ good to do
> some architectural work that would lead to both design and
> applicability statements, rather than continuing to add more of
> them without an obvious plan.
>

I agree with a lot of things you have written here. But I'm wary of any
effort regarding a grand unifying architecture, if that is where such an
effort takes us... especially given the recent discussions on URIs/URNs.
That said, there may be room for some discussion here as there are other
ideas in this space (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-newton-link-rr/
).

-andy