Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79A61A1B7F for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:27:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.611 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NxbbFMnwLrqu for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mr11p00im-asmtp002.me.com (mr11p00im-asmtp002.me.com [17.110.69.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1C121A6FCE for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.10.8] (173-11-110-134-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.11.110.134]) by mr11p00im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NZG00D1JOHGRG00@mr11p00im-asmtp002.me.com> for ietf@ietf.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:27:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2015-12-16_07:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1512160294 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:27:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Melinda Shore Subject: Re: Hotel situation In-reply-to: <56719B42.2040902@gmail.com> Message-id: References: <567192F3.9090506@gmail.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B630797A09BC1@mbx-03.WIN.NOMINUM.COM> <56719864.8010604@gmail.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B630797A09C09@mbx-03.WIN.NOMINUM.COM> <56719B42.2040902@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Cc: IETF Discussion X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:27:19 -0000 On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Melinda Shore wrote: > I don't know what Usenix is doing these days but back > when I was heavily involved we always seemed to find > hotels that could accommodate most attendees. But, they > had a very, very skilled professional meeting organizer > on staff rather than relying on a committee of volunteers. > > Melinda Just on your final point: The IETF does not solely "rely on a committee of volunteers," we use a very skilled professional meeting organizer called AMS, aka the IETF Secretariat. Ole