Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard

Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> Thu, 16 July 2015 13:57 UTC

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From: Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:57:05 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard
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On 16 July 2015 at 00:44, Joe Hildebrand <hildjj@cursive.net> wrote:
> I don't see any mention of the CAB Forum stuff in the draft.  Has anyone
> done the analysis to see if CAB Forum members really will issue certs to
> .onion addresses if we do this?  Do they issue certs for .example or .local
> today?

Not only will they issue certificates .onion, but they will not be
required to revoke the certificates they have _already_ issued, and
are using happily. I know Facebook and Blockchain, a few certs for
each, and maybe a third I'm forgetting. That will only go up over
time.

On the topics of metrics, indeed https://metrics.torproject.org/ is
the place.  You missed a zero though. It's 2 *million* directly
connecting users/day on average, not 200K.

On the topic of carrot, I would suggest .carrot.alt =)  I would also
ask about your user base.

On the topic of TLD vs Special Use: Yes I can confirm we want a
special use name, not a TLD.

On the topic of reliable resource,
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/ is a great URL, this
is where we standardize our specifications and update them. Our
process is different from the IETF, but there is one.  rend-spec.txt
in particular deals with .onion - but you would need to work with the
rest of the specs to get that far.  Barring operator accidents or some
absurd explosion in DNS price, I expect torproject.org will live 40+
years reliably. It may not be as future-reliable as iana.org or
ietf.org, but that URL, and/or "the torspec repository" is probably as
reasonably reliable as any other offsite link.

I support this draft.

-tom