Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 04 March 2013 16:42 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 3/4/13 6:38 AM, Ralph Droms wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:07 AM 3/4/13, "Eggert, Lars" > <lars@netapp.com> wrote: > >> >> On Mar 4, 2013, at 13:18, Eric Burger >> <eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote: > >> The IETF is set up so that the top level leadership requires >> technical expertise. It is not only a management job. This is a >> key differentiator to other SDOs, and IMO it shows in the quality >> of the output we produce. The reason the RFCs are typically of >> very good quality is that the same eyeballs go over all documents >> before they go out. > > But that model doesn't scale. What about, for example, ensuring > the quality in the documents as they come out of the WGs?, which > distributes the work rather than concentrating it in IESG? There is technical work other than late-stage document reviews. We might get a larger return on investment if community members who are temporarily serving in the area director role were to spend more of their combined technical and management talent on making sure that our working groups are solving the right engineering problems for the long-term health of Internet. If that leads to fewer working groups producing higher-quality output, so be it. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRNM7uAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pxZ8P/RRkmv2y6i5A5h6nRA7f27vV IRtjBZv0sR3SLvF0wo/i2x6ko4IdpEzxFfTun5GdEPUB5Ty+a1FGv6FEnkyISESO 0c7iJKLlvbKzGMMQpm6Xzcc7a/Wco80d1xKs/cjN9yDmA4wOgWrXsIfQyRNp0ced QdWXrLYF74brx0YOzLmDL8rpwQO//NO8ZZrGHl7jHEAeD7wiD57lPUzUJKwW8Mr4 5whZ0rI97tfDU1NV5dc+YKy86D/ahbjsFTCX7/PLCElM0m9A4vZVncYtlAuXtHrZ d02sBrEF+y60MEOB0LU7k5bw/RbD3r5X9GTChPTCMQJiTuuBaYnALT/hXrirpQC4 NvlOU3JL9/27ep2ZMCk6UJ2AtolNxAA/z139EaraVA4LZrhvoPM7EUF4mjpiFIKM wG2r8vUJW9JSS6GuzuD2X/YNEErBUJk7ejpTGkPHspw/yj8t6ogaSYDk+FoNAymi WIdHk1AjGyDP8qLapUwVRwMGkJz59nfQdOf8UMMHtqr/Kr6uVgzLw3VM0HSkFUNM ZCE/9Xm6+jV5vWcEhVEU4WV2QrtEnYEKzCAcapByUXvWjADnexVq1docwVA6z805 CQv+fGrxtaXCbUii8VuOpkErL4MNoXXMyScCKEEnodCcIQ9BClc5QmATNooaakjq L5lfxuqsqXDmWWm7I803 =xbOC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- Appointment of a Transport Area Director IETF Chair
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eric Burger
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eggert, Lars
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eric Burger
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director John C Klensin
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eggert, Lars
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eggert, Lars
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Dave Crocker
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Mary Barnes
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Scott Brim
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Michael Richardson
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Scott Brim
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Randy Bush
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director John Leslie
- RE: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Leaf Yeh
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eliot Lear
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eggert, Lars
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eggert, Lars
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Melinda Shore
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eric Burger
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eggert, Lars
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Ralph Droms
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Eric Burger
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Hector Santos
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Stewart Bryant
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director John Leslie
- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Mary Barnes
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- Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director Sam Hartman
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