Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 04 March 2013 16:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director
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On 3/4/13 6:38 AM, Ralph Droms wrote:
> 
> On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:07 AM 3/4/13, "Eggert, Lars"
> <lars@netapp.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 13:18, Eric Burger
>> <eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote:
> 
>> The IETF is set up so that the top level leadership requires 
>> technical expertise. It is not only a management job. This is a
>> key differentiator to other SDOs, and IMO it shows in the quality
>> of the output we produce. The reason the RFCs are typically of
>> very good quality is that the same eyeballs go over all documents
>> before they go out.
> 
> But that model doesn't scale.  What about, for example, ensuring
> the quality in the documents as they come out of the WGs?, which 
> distributes the work rather than concentrating it in IESG?

There is technical work other than late-stage document reviews. We
might get a larger return on investment if community members who are
temporarily serving in the area director role were to spend more of
their combined technical and management talent on making sure that our
working groups are solving the right engineering problems for the
long-term health of Internet. If that leads to fewer working groups
producing higher-quality output, so be it.

Peter

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