How IETF Protocols are Definition?

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Fri, 22 June 2012 21:23 UTC

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Subject: How IETF Protocols are Definition?
From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
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Hi All,
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Previos subject: Protocol Definition
Change the subject so we can focus on the reality of IETF purpose>
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The thing is that the definition has been discussed on the list and
they were very good overall. However, the first question is not
defining but how our IETF-WGs define protocols. If you cannot find a
definition then write a RFC about the definition and you will notice
that it will not pass through until you define it in the limits that I
tried to define.

There are RFC that were/are in IETF that didn't mention there
applicability statement or use cases, which I think is very important
is designing any protocol as:
1- what was it designed for? and  2- how will it be used?
But thoes RFCs/protocols are for the Internet network, so that is why
IETF is involved. I don't think that IETF is standardizing protocols
that are/can not used in Internet network.

Therefore, all protocols/RFCs in IETF SHOULD be produced in consistent
with IETF purpose, and RECOMMENDED to define its
use-case/applicability. However, it will be nice to think to write a
draft of defining *IETF protocols and technologies*, which I may do in
future interested, because this thread is going long :)

Thanks, Donald and Tony for your points/comments, but we may see the
RFCs that update your pointed-RFCs and in the future it may be updated
as well to invision IETF purpose.

AB
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On 6/22/12, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about RFC 1661.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
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> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote:
>> Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > All protocols in IETF are based on the Internet or/and the IP.
>>>
>>> what a laugh.  try, for example, RFC 826
>>
>> Perhaps a better example is RFC 6325.
>>
>> Tony.
>> --
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>

How IETF Protocols are Definition? Abdussalam Baryun