Re: IESG Telechats -- WebEx failure

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 10 May 2018 18:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Telechats -- WebEx failure
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John Leslie <john@jlc.net> wrote:
    >> If you download a modern browser (Chrome, Firefox, and I imagine there's
    >> some way to get a new Safari) you should be able to join via browser (WebRTC).

    > I have the latest Chrome, Firefox, and Safari, so far as I have can tell,
    > that will run on my
    > ]
    > ]  OS X
    > ] Version 10.8.5
    > ]...
    > ] Processor 1.8 GHz Intel Core i5
    > ] Mmory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

    > As I said, this is somewhat ancient... However, IMHO, it is no more ancient
    > than what the majority of third-world IETF participants can afford.

So, just to be clear, are you joining using the desktop application (JAVA),
or via the browser (webrtc).  There is a host (literally) of things you can
not do from the webrtc interface.
(Seeing who is talking is one of the things you can do)
Join-by-browser works for me with chrome and firefox on Devuan/Debian Linux.
I'm not as diligent about having this week's version, but I'm usually no
further behind than a month.   

    > Obviously, cisco is entitled to update their free-of-charge software on
    > whatever schedule is convenient to them -- but the IETF should try to use
    > tools which don't break without better warning.

Actually, Cisco's system is not free-of-charge.
It was donated to the IETF for awhile with no SLA, but apparently we now have
an SLA (we are real customer), and so really we have the right to complain.

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