Re: IPv10 (Temp. name IPmix) (draft-omar-ipv10-00.txt).

shogunx@sleekfreak.ath.cx Thu, 29 December 2016 04:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: IPv10 (Temp. name IPmix) (draft-omar-ipv10-00.txt).
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016, Randy Bush wrote:

>>> demonetize IPv4 addresses and the problem will solve itself.
>> Do you have some magic wand that can make that happen?

I wish.  Might take a time machine, methinks.

>
> i thought we were talking enterprise.  cost of space in 10/8 is
> halving hourly.
>
> until we provide an easier and cheaper approach than nat, the
> enterprises will continue to nat.

can we killer app it?  something that end to end connectivity through 
public addressing will allow that NAT is a hassle for?  It seems a 
tremendous amount of work went into various approaches at making SIP work 
across a natted connection.

> instead we tell them that they
> are stupid and do not understand the true religion; and when they
> finally do, the light of day will shine upon them.  problem is
> that folk have been blowing sunshine up their trousers/skirts
> since dirt was invented; they just ignore it and do what is best
> for their bottom line this quarter.
>
> randy
>
>