Re: [Mtgvenue] Interim step on meetings site feedback for sites currently under active consideration

I think the tool is that each discussion needs a chair and each chair is
responsible for getting value from any discussion/list/meeting. IETF needs
to look into our chairs or create more.

AB

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> The IETF has a very strong tradition of commenting at length on the topic
> at hand and hoping either that IETF leadership will spend the time to
> review the whole thread and extract the salient points from it, or give up
> in despair.   So what you are seeing here is very much the IETF tradition.
>   Asking people to do better probably won't work, although it never hurts
> to try.
>
> I personally see this as a tools problem, more than a communications
> problem--we need better tools to track the points being made in discussions
> so that either the people discussing can see that they don't need to make a
> particular point again, or at least that the people tracking the discussion
> can see that the point has already been made.
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Corinne Cath <corinnecath@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Just a quick question: are you intending on providing feedback to the
>> IAOC? If so, maybe it makes sense to coordinate a bit in order to prevent a
>> duplication of entries? Or will it be useful if multiple people point out
>> the same themes?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Corinne
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 PM, <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>But
>>> >> I think these issues should be balanced with the overall benefit
>>> >> that the IETF World Tour provides.
>>>
>>>
>>> >As I've said repeatedly, I don't think the world tour actually
>>> >does bring much benefit.  I'm very hopeful that some of the
>>> >South Americans who attended their first IETF meeting because
>>> >it was held in Buenos Aires will continue to participate (as in:
>>> >bring in work and participate in ongoing work, and not as in: sit
>>> >in meetings) but historically that has not been the case.
>>>
>>> Just to put some numbers into this conversation, we have 8 people from
>>> Latin America who have signed up to be a part of the Internet Draft Review
>>> teams.   The first review team to form will likely be the Spanish-speaking
>>> DNSOP review team.
>>>
>>> This is one week after IETF 95 and after 3 days of soliciting review
>>> teams and basically zero publicity.
>>>
>>> I wonder if there has not been more participation in active IETF work
>>> before from other regions because there was no structured way to start
>>> participating and language insensitivity.  (BTW, there is a new member of
>>> the Mentoring Team from Latin America, that I met in Buenos Aires who will
>>> translate the Mentoring emails into Spanish.)
>>>
>>> But the effort of the Mentoring Team is standing on the shoulders of
>>> giants.  People such as Carlos Martinez, Christian O'Flaherty, Alvaro
>>> Retana, Dr. Juliao Braga, and many others who have done such a tremendous
>>> job of outreach to their community in Latin America.
>>>
>>> So, let's do some changing of history.
>>>
>>> Nalini
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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