Re: Change in IPR policies

Jay Daley <> Tue, 09 June 2020 20:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: Change in IPR policies
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:59:50 +1200
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> On 10/06/2020, at 8:50 AM, Adrian Farrel <> wrote:
>>> (2) There is a very specific and, as far as I know, completely
>>> new, prohibition against distribution or broadcasting of any
>>> meeting-related discussion or events.  That seems like a giant
>>> step away from the IETF's tradition of openness and free
>>> availability of materials.
>> I need to check, but I think the intent there was to restrict 
>> livestreaming and nothing else as the combination of live
>> streaming + open jabber rooms would effectively allow
>> participation without registration.  Once I’ve reviewed I
>> will get that corrected.
> Two points:
> - The check box says "without IETF’s prior written consent"
>  so perhaps the IETF would care to grant that wholesale
>  and now.

As I said, I will get that corrected.

> - Does this mean that audio streaming will no longer happen?
>   If so, I really (really, really) hope that Webex is going to let me
>   join multiple simultaneous meetings so that I can easily skip in
>   and out of the audio when I have an agenda clash. (I do also 
>   wonder, in this case, how we support people with platforms 
>   that can't run Webex in any of its forms.)

Audio streaming is not supported for the same reason that audio streaming + open jabber rooms effectively allows participation without registration.

The platform for IETF 108 will be Meetecho not WebEx - do you have the same concerns with that or are your concerns more generally about people participating from places where the cost of bandwidth is an issue for video?


> Best,
> Adrian

Jay Daley
IETF Executive Director