Re: exploring the process of self retiring one's name from an RFC

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 19/04/2019 à 18:57, John C Klensin a écrit :
> Alex,
> 
> With all respect to the other suggestions, Aaron has it right.
> Interestingly, he is proposing a solution that has was on the
> radar for 30 or 40 years (and I presume is still).   The
> solution to a problem with an RFC, _any_ problem, is another
> RFC.  Publishing the same document without your name on it is
> probably a non-starter, not only because all of your co-authors
> would need to agreed, but because the new document would need to
> go through the same review, Last Call, and IESG decision process
> the first one did and find it hard to imagine that would not end
> up requiring some rewriting as well as taking up a lot of time.
> But writing a critique and trying to get it published is always
> in order.
> 
> I would suggest one variation on Aaron's suggestion: rather than
> going directly to the Independent Submission Editor, have a
> discussion with one of the relevant ADs about a commentary,
> revised analysis, or other explanation about possible
> sponsorship for publication in the IETF Stream.  If you can get
> agreement to do that (and you are willing to put in the work),
> you could structure the new document to update with existing one
> (not by removing your name but by providing new information to
> the community).  Upon publication, that would result in "updated
> by" information in the metadata of the original and make your
> position much more obvious than simply publishing a critique.
> That would be much harder to accomplish with an Independent
> Submission because cross-stream updates have historically been
> contentious for various good reasons and possibly a few bad
> ones.  If the AD(s) are not receptive, the Independent Stream is
> an obvious second choice but, as Aaron hints, such a submission
> would almost certainly have to be about "why that was a bad
> idea" or "why you are more convinced it is a bad idea now than
> you concluded at the time".
> 
> Just to get your name removed, or even getting a subsequent
> document published to remove it, is likely to be impossible; the
> price of the nearest approximations is that you will need to do
> some substantive and informative writing.

John,

Thank you for the suggestion of a separate document.  It makes sense as 
you describe it.  I would be the only author of that new document and, 
if approved, it would express better what  I wanted to say in the first 
place.

I will see whether an opportunity may arise.

Alex
> 
>      john
> 
> 
> --On Friday, April 19, 2019 11:59 -0400 Aaron Falk
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 6:00, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>>
>>> I consider using such process to retire my name from the RFC
>>> that analyses the 64bit boundary analysis.
>>>
>>> For some reason I got in that group, then participated
>>> positively to  the
>>> discussion, and I let myself tempted to have my name up on
>>> the first page of a published RFC; but finally, after much
>>> time and reflexion, I think I do not agree with the effects
>>> of this RFC.
>>
>>
>> Sounds like you may want to write an independent submission
>> RFC on why you now think RFC7608 is a bad idea.
>>
>> --aaron
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