Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC]
Glen Zorn <glenzorn@gmail.com> Sun, 10 June 2012 05:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC]
From: Glen Zorn <glenzorn@gmail.com>
To: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
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On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 18:09 -0700, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > The intended rotation cycle is still 1-1-1 for NA-EU-AP regions, but > it's all dependent on finding suitable and available venues and > willing hosts and sponsors. Changing the text of the document would > imply a change in "policy" or "normal state of things" which there > hasn't been. Hmm. So a dream world is the normal state of things...I guess really should read this thing, if only to discover what other fantasies have been made "real" through the magic of rough consensus. However, since this is a guide for the novice, I might remind folks that there is chance that, lacking real experience, the novices in question might actually believe what's in it -- a dangerous prospect it seems. > > Ole > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Glen Zorn wrote: > > A quick check of the "Upcoming IETF Meetings" calendar > (http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html) shows that the next meeting > in Asia is scheduled for November 2015, while the last was November > 2011. How does a 4 year gap map to "approximately once a year"?
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Eliot Lear
- Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-… Brian E Carpenter
- Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffma… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Dave Crocker
- ICANN relationship [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Dave Crocker
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Yoav Nir
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Dave Crocker
- Re: Making the Tao a web page Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … SM
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Klaas Wierenga
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Simon Perreault
- Re: Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoff… John C Klensin
- Re: Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoff… Scott Brim
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … John C Klensin
- Re: Making the Tao a web page Fred Baker
- Re: Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoff… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Brian E Carpenter
- IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Martin Rex
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- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Ben Niven-Jenkins
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- Re: Making the Tao a web page Fadi Mohsen
- Re: Making the Tao a web page John C Klensin
- Re: Making the Tao a web page SM
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- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… John Levine
- Re: IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Thierry Moreau
- Re: IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Fred Baker
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call:<draft-hof… t.p.
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- Re: Making the Tao a web page SM
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- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Eliot Lear
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Glen Zorn
- [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Randy Bush
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Glen Zorn
- RE: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Yoav Nir
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- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … John C Klensin