Re: Quic: the elephant in the room

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sun, 11 April 2021 17:23 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
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Subject: Re: Quic: the elephant in the room
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  *   I don't see why [DNS timeouts] it can't be long lived, but even normal TTL's would get amortized over a lot of connections. Right now with certs it is a 5 message affair which cannot get better. But that is why one of $BROWSERVENDORS doing an experiment would be helpful.

There are use-cases where a five-second DNS TTL is important.  And they’re not amortized over multiple connections from *one* user, but rather affect *many* users.  Imagine an e-commerce site connected to two CDN’s who needs to switch.