Re: IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC]
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Subject: Re: IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC]
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On May 31, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Thierry Moreau wrote: > Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 2012-05-31 09:24, SM wrote: >> ... >>> In Section 3.2.3: >>> >>> "Approves the appointment of the IANA" >>> >>> Isn't IANA more of a U.S. Government decision? >> The IAB decides who acts as the IETF's IANA. RFC 2860 again. >> Brian > > See e.g. > > http://ntia.doc.gov/page/iana-functions-purchase-order You're correct that NTIA wants to pay someone to do the "protocol parameter" job. The IAB can decide to not use that office.
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- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Eliot Lear
- Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-… Brian E Carpenter
- Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffma… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Dave Crocker
- ICANN relationship [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Dave Crocker
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Yoav Nir
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Dave Crocker
- Re: Making the Tao a web page Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … SM
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Klaas Wierenga
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Simon Perreault
- Re: Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoff… John C Klensin
- Re: Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoff… Scott Brim
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … John C Klensin
- Re: Making the Tao a web page Fred Baker
- Re: Mission statement [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoff… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Brian E Carpenter
- IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Melinda Shore
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Martin Rex
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Yoav Nir
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- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… Joel jaeggli
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- Re: Making the Tao a web page John C Klensin
- Re: Making the Tao a web page SM
- RE: Making the Tao a web page GT RAMIREZ, Medel G.
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call: <draft-ho… John Levine
- Re: IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Thierry Moreau
- Re: IANA [Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Fred Baker
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call:<draft-hof… t.p.
- Re: Colloquial language [Re: Last Call:<draft-hof… Randy Bush
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- Re: Making the Tao a web page SM
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- Re: Making the Tao a web page SM
- Re: Making the Tao a web page Dave Crocker
- Re: Making the Tao a web page SM
- Re: Making the Tao a web page Lucy Lynch
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Bradner, Scott
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Eliot Lear
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … Bradner, Scott
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- [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Randy Bush
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Ole Jacobsen
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- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [Fwd: Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bi… Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> … John C Klensin