Re: [dhcwg] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dhc-anonymity-profile-06.txt> (Anonymity profile for DHCP clients) to Proposed Standard

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 23 February 2016 11:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dhc-anonymity-profile-06.txt> (Anonymity profile for DHCP clients) to Proposed Standard
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On 02/23/2016 06:35 AM, Christian Huitema wrote:
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 4:36 PM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Fernando Gont
>> <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote: ...
>>> But the authors are making such statement here. i.e., if you are
>>> going to implement SLAAC/DHCPv6, then this statement affects
>>> your implementation. Hence, an appropriate tag should be included
>>> (i.e., such that if I look at RFC4862 or RFC3315, it's clear that
>>> I should look at this document, too).
>> 
>> I still don't see why this document needs to formally "updates: RFC
>> 4862" if it doesn't affect any > text in it.
> 
> We actually had an extensive discussion on a related topic, whether
> to state that the document was "updating RFC 4361." We concluded that
> no, it wasn't, using precisely the test that Lorenzo mentions. The
> consensus was that an RFC can only update another one if it replaces
> some of the original text. You have to be able to say something like
> "in section X of RFC Y, replace the sentence so and so by this and
> that," or "add this paragraph."

Please see my response to Lorenzo.

Essentially, Lorenzo is saying that even if M=1, if you have a PIO with
A=1 you SHOULD do SLAAC and SHOULD NOT do DHCPv6. That's an update to
the existing specs.

Similarly, your text says:
    The choice between the stateful and stateless scenarios depends on
    flag and prefix options published by the "Router Advertisement"
    messages of local routers, as specified in [RFC4861].  When these
    options enable stateless address configuration hosts using the
    anonymity profile SHOULD choose it over stateful address
    configuration, because stateless configuration requires fewer	
    information disclosures than stateful configuration.

That's actually the contrary of what the specs say today: if M=1 you do
DHCPv6, not SLAAC.

I'm not arguing that what you propose is incorrect. I'm just saying
that, procedurally speaking, you're updating SLAAC. Hence your document
should have an appropriate "Update" tag, and note in the abstract the
specs it is updating.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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