Re: Resignation request
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Wed, 04 March 2020 04:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: Resignation request
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>
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Stewart, et.al., First, there has been some ambivalence regarding what the issue with an AD taking this type of decission. - there is no doubt that an AD may take this decision, module enough involvement in the wg and giódd understanding of the issues - it might be discussed if the right decision were taken, from my point of view (personal opinion) I can live with this decision Comment on Stewart's comment inline. On 03/03/2020 20:32, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > >> On 2 Mar 2020, at 21:43, Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> I have no information about the situation but I do not understand why an AD would be declaring consensus in any case - >>> that is normally the responsibility of WG chairs. see RFC 2418 section 3.3 >> >> The only active/available WG chair was a co-author of this draft. >> >> Cheers, >> Sander >> >> > > > As a WGC that has been in a position where the chairs had a CoI, I(we) asked the WG Secretary to manage the document, and that is what other WGs do. Look at the DetNet data plane drafts as an example. That means that the decision is taken at the lowest level and leaves the AD continue in the oversight role. Yes - a much better practice. You could also appoint working group chair from another group as "shepherd" and explicitly delegate the task to call consensus after the wglc. I think that PALS did this for me once when both chairs were draft authors. /Loa > > Anyway from the discussion on the list this probably need to go for review by the other two RTG ADs to check that they are happy with the decision or to recommend some other action. > > - Stewart > > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Andrew Alston
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Fwd: Resignation request Fernando Gont
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Nick Hilliard
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Melchior Aelmans
- Re: Resignation request Job Snijders
- Re: Resignation request Ted Hardie
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Resignation request Sander Steffann
- Re: Resignation request Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Resignation request Andrew Alston
- Re: Resignation request Keith Moore
- Re: Resignation request Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Resignation request Stewart Bryant
- Re: Resignation request Loa Andersson
- Timeout Request: Was: Resignation request Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Resignation request Alex Bogdanov
- Fw: FW: [spring] Resignation request licong@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: Resignation request Nico Williams
- Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Warren Kumari
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Paul Wouters
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Andrew Alston
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Fernando Gont
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) S Moonesamy
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Paul Wouters
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) S Moonesamy
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Pete Resnick
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Nico Williams
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Eric Rescorla
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Larry Masinter
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Eric Rescorla
- Re: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Dispute process (Was: Resignation request) Larry Masinter